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CNN anchor Abby Phillip joined “The Breakfast Club” on Tuesday to promote her new book, “A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power,” when she was asked about the “rainbow coalition” of politically diverse guests on her “NewsNight” show.

“This is a time in our political life where we have to really know what’s going on, and we have to know what everyone is saying on all sides of the issue, because I don’t think ignorance has served anyone well,” he told Charlamagne Tha God of the “Breakfast Club.”

“I get a lot of criticism from the left, from people saying, ‘Why do you have MAGA people on the show?’” Phillip added. “And it’s like, well, you should know what they’re saying because, just so you know, half the country voted for Trump and for Trumpism.”

Phillip went on to argue that “we need to have that debate” between people from all sides of the political spectrum, and that it is better for these discussions to be “open” rather than isolated in exclusively conservative echo chambers.

When asked how she endures some of the toughest conversations as one of CNN’s only Black anchors, Phillip noted that she controls her show and draws the line when necessary. Phillip pointed out some notable controversies from recent history.

“But honestly, Jillian Michaels crossed the line in the sense that she said something that was a little embarrassing and we addressed it, but we never said, ‘You’re not welcome,’” Phillip said Tuesday. “And I don’t think she crossed the line either.”

She concluded: “I think she just wasn’t informed.”

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This was a reference to hundreds of pagers possessed by suspected Hezbollah operatives in Lebanon, which spontaneously exploded last September, killing at least 37 people and wounding thousands in an attack believed to have been carried out by Israel.

“And that was a real line that was crossed because wishing death on a guest of the show is completely unacceptable,” Phillip said Tuesday. “And they told him, and I said it publicly on the show, that they wouldn’t invite him back.”

“And so, there are lines that cross, and I think people understand that I will draw them when necessary,” he continued. “But I also think we want to have real conversations. Sometimes they get a little confusing and that’s okay.”

Watch the full discussion below starting at 14:32:

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