Louis Prevost, the self -denominated older brother “Maga” of the new Pope Leo XIV, and his wife, Deborah, met on Tuesday with President Donald Trump and vice president JD Vance in the White House.

They had a “great meeting,” wrote White House Margo Martin on social networks.

It is not clear what they talked about.

“Sometimes I like going to stir the pot,” he confessed to Piers Morgan last week. “Very like I think President Trump does. He says things just to stir the pot. Because it is fun that he likes to enter some of these debates with people sometimes from the other side.”

Louis Prevost, second from the left, brother of Pope Leo XIV, and his wife, Deborah, next to the second lady Usha Vance and vice president JD Vance during the opening mass of Leo as a pontiff.
Louis Prevost, second from the left, brother of Pope Leo XIV, and his wife, Deborah, next to the second lady Usha Vance and vice president JD Vance during the opening mass of Leo as a pontiff.

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The veteran of the US Navy.

“I don’t need to create heat to him,” he said.

On the contrary, the new Pope, the firstborn in the United States, has shared publications that hit Trump and Vance.

Louis Prevost sat next to the second Lady Usha Vance and her husband, the vice president, a Catholic convert, during the Pope’s inaugural mass in the Vatican on Sunday. During the Mass, Leo urged the rejection of hatred and division. Louis also joined the meeting of the US delegation with the Pope on Monday.

JD Vance has invited the Pope to visit the United States on an official trip.