California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has said he shares deep concern about the possibility of President Donald Trump clinging to power beyond the conclusion of his second term, even though the U.S. Constitution explicitly prohibits it.

While the president told reporters Wednesday that “it’s pretty clear” that the 22nd Amendment does not allow him to seek another run for the White House in 2028, both Trump and his allies seemed eager to explore the possibility.

Trump has been selling products for 2028 and, as recently as Monday, has not explicitly ruled out a third term.

“I haven’t really thought about it. I have the best poll numbers I’ve ever had,” he said at the time, but added, “I’m not ruling it out? I mean, you’ll have to tell me.”

In an interview with ABC’s Jonathan Karl that will be published in full on Wednesday, Newsom said there is a method behind the talks about Trump’s third term.

“I don’t think so [Trump] he takes himself seriously, but repeats. Throw things. And play with it, see how people react and express themselves. That is, once a mind is stretched, it never returns to its original shape. And that’s my concern,” Newsom told Karl.

President Donald Trump (R) speaks with California Governor Gavin Newsom (L) after arriving on Air Force One at Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, January 24, 2025.
President Donald Trump (R) speaks with California Governor Gavin Newsom (L) after arriving on Air Force One at Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, January 24, 2025.

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Newsom also singled out Steve Bannon, a veteran Trump insider who recently told The Economist that “there is a plan” for Trump to be president in 2028, as a potentially dangerous force fueling the president’s power ambitions.

“I’m deeply concerned about this, and guys like Bannon aren’t kidding,” Newsom told ABC News. “They’re not kidding.”

Newsom, who has been relentlessly criticizing the president and his policies on social media, admitted he is considering a 2028 presidential run, confirming his ambitions extend beyond California as he leaves the governor’s mansion in Sacramento in January 2027 due to term limits.

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