Transcription: Senator Mark Warner in

The next is the transcription of an interview with Senator Mark Warner, a Democrat of Virginia who issued “to face the nation with Margaret Brennan” on September 7, 2025.

Margaret Brennan: The main Democrat accompanies us the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner. Good morning, senator, it is good to have you here in person. You are known for your Intel work, but you are also in several other committees. We were talking about the economy. Do you agree that basically, the economic data launched by the United States is potentially failed fundamentally?

Sen. Mark Warner: No, I think the BLS has been the gold standard for years, seen not only in this country, but throughout the world. Could there be reforms? Absolutely, but it is a bit ironic that you are shooting the referee, the president shooting his head, cutting the staff. I am not sure how that will improve the quality of the data. And the president had promised that a golden age of American workers. We do 80,000 manufacturing work since the beginning of your period. We are basically a flat hiring position. And what I think that the families who are listening, if someone has a family, a family member who is in the university or immediately leaves the university. You know what a difficult labor market is to find this. And one of the things that I would like to have heard of Kevin and, frankly, from more economists, is that we are about to see the greatest labor dislocation in our history, I believe, in terms of labor dislocation of AI. And those are many times the work promoted by the university. I mean, think five years ago, we told each child, if you want to get a good job, become a computer programmer. Those will be some of the first works ignored and eliminated. So, alone, I am afraid that this approach to who maintains the score when I believe that the American public realized that the labor market is difficult, and particularly in terms of manufacturing work, there is no golden age.

Margaret Brennan: Well, and there is also a fundamental reference of the economy, if you are talking about artificial intelligence. Then, at that point quickly, there were more than a dozen technological titans in the White House this week, including some of these giants in the artificial intelligence space. The founder of Microsoft, Bill Gates, CEO of Google, CEO of Apple, and were around by praising President Trump for the investment in chips manufacturing. And ai, do you deserve? Do you think that praise deserves?

Sen. Warner: Well, I can say that the manufacture of chips arose due to a bill that John Cornyn and I put under the Chips Infrastructure Law.

Margaret Brennan: Bipartisan.

Sen. Warner: $ 52 billion totally bipartisan. President Trump has been very critical of that bill. Now, I think, it is sending a mixed message, because some of the investments in that bill went to Intel, our last meaning, significant chips manufacturer. He took a capital participation there, which is debatable, although I think that some of the profits,

Margaret Brennan: Taxpayers have 10% of the company now.

Sen. Warner: But here is the strange, while trying to support the manufacture of US chips, at the same time, he has removed any of the restrictions on, for example, Nvidia H-20 Chips to sell to China. So how do we read this if we mean that we want to develop American capacity until yes, be sure to maintain our leadership against China? Well, why sell some of our more avant -garde chips to China? It is a complete contradiction in politics.

Margaret Brennan: And the White House says, Oh, they are not excellent chips, so we can sell them. That is what the Secretary of Commerce has said. But in the rhythm of intelligence, as vice president of the Intelligence Committee, you have a supervision authority, and according to the law, Intel agencies must inform that committee about their operations. The CIA has to tell you about covert actions. This is an important type of supervision, but last week, you said that they even prevented you from attending a meeting at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency in Virginia. Why do you think you were blocked? And his republican counterpart promised that this will not continue.

Sen. Warner: I have made these visits to our Intel facilities during the 10 years, I have been president or vice president of the Intelligence Committee. They are part of the normal course. You have the opportunity to see the workforce, where they are working. You can see the new, newer, better and more great things, and many times I can make a meeting of the City Council, because I am not only the chair or vice president, but many of these facilities are in Virginia.

Margaret Brennan: Correct.

Sen. Warner: Then, this meeting has been literally weeks. Normal business course. This very unusual person, Laura Loomer, who is a right -wing blogger that is so controversial that the Trump administration did not even put her in her cabinet or has been a September 11 denial. She has been a virulent anti-Anti-Musulman person. She has been a great defender of working with white nationalists, but seems to have the ear of President Trump.

Margaret Brennan: She talks to the main advisors, including the Secretary of State.

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Sen. Warner: her first national security advisor: National Security Advisor was expelled because she was after him, the head of the National Security Agency with whom I recently saw, General Tim Hawk was fired. She said to shoot. Recently, we have seen 37 people from the installation of Intel senior to lose their security classification, which basically takes them out of a job. And boast of all this in his blog. I mean, he really raises the question, is it really the Interim Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of War this morning? Is she the true director of National Intelligence? What she followed was something not related to this, and said: Why can we let an antifrontal person in an intelligence center? Finally, it seems, Tuesday night, my meeting was canceled. Now we are not going to defend that. I have spoken with my republican colleagues

Margaret Brennan: Does Tom Cotton promise you that this will not happen again?

Sen. Warner: I’m going to celebrate those meetings. I have raised it with cotton. I have collected it with the other intelligence members. You want to talk about something that is dangerous, restricts the ability of the congress to supervise, particularly with this administration, then we are flying blind. And in the particular intelligence space, not all members can do this. Those of us who are senior in the Intel committee, are the limited numbers, we are the eyes and ears of the rest of the Senate to do this supervision. They try to restrict that this America will be less safe. And let’s do it, I’m going to do them.

Margaret Brennan: Then, tell me about this campaign that I would have seen in Latin America, with the United States taking out this drug boat. The Rubio Secretary, his former colleague in the Senate Intelligence Committee, says: cites, if you are in a boat full of cocaine or fentanyl or whatever is directed to the United States, you are an immediate threat to the United States. He is saying that it is a justification for national security to carry out a campaign with an unclear timeline. Have you contacted Rubio about this? Do you know anything about how you are formulating here with the intelligence community?

Sen. Warner: Well, first of all, Maduro’s regime in Venezuela are bad, and obviously we need to do everything possible to stop the fentanyl. They have not informed us about this. This was a DOD, it was not an Intel project. It was a DOD project. But my fear is that there are still international laws of the sea on how the process of intercounting this type of ships, is supposed to be a shot of a warning. You are supposed to try to take it peacefully. I understand that this ship, none of those procedures is followed, and I will obtain the full report this week. But what worries me is that if we put our sailors in danger in violating international law, unless there are appropriate designations, could this return and hurt those sailors? The sailors were doing their job.

Margaret Brennan: But as far as they know, this is completely a military operation. Are you not using intelligence assets?

Sen> Warner: Yes, no …

Margaret Brennan: Because the administration says they know all those who were in that boat, they had “great clarity and faithfulness.”

Sen. Warner: Well, I would like to see that data. But this, again, goes to the point. This type of action should be informed to the intelligence community. And I am a member of what is called the gang of eight. Those are the people who are supposed to get absolute secret things, the only one that the president obtains. I have not received information.

Margaret Brennan: Is there no information about this?

Sen. Warner: There is no information about this.

Margaret Brennan: Are you making regular information to the exchange of information with eight gangs?

Sen. Warner: There is shared information, the level of exchange and punctuality of the exchange of us, for example, we were in the bombings of Iran. They did not notify us in advance, our Republican colleagues were notified. When you start supervising and who receives shared information about a partisan basis, this kind of cooking books and intelligence on how we enter the war in Iraq first?

Margaret Brennan: Warner Senator, thanks for your time. Today. We will return much more in the nation. So stay with us.